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Apple's Safari a hit | |
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| Time: 00:00 EST/05:00 GMT | News Source: Australian IT | Posted By: Todd Richardson | ||
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More than 300,000 copies of Apple Computer's new web browser have been downloaded within 24 hours of its release. "Safari", which was made available on the web on Wednesday, is marketed as three times as fast as Microsoft's Internet Explorer program. Apple senior vice president Philip Schiller said the company was thrilled with the result, which is three times its previous record. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 1/13/2003 12:26:03 AM |
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"marketed as three times as fast as Microsoft's Internet Explorer program"
Well, I'll believe that when I see independant benchmarks... but I wouldn't disagree that it's possible... after all, Apple has access to Apple's source, and can therefore give an unfair advantage to their own code. :-) "300,000 copies of Apple Computer's new web browser have been downloaded within 24 hours of its release" Hehe. Well, this is much like the release of Nine Inch Nails' The Fragile. The Fragile was the fastest selling CD in the history of music... for 3 days. It then dropped off the charts. In some ways, Nine Inch Nails fans are similar to Apple fans. We both wait with baited breath for the "next release"... and as soon as it hits the shelves, we eat it up at phenominal rates... but since we are a minority, the sales quickly dwindle as the fanatics have all already made their puchases. The difference, I think, between Apple fanatics and Nine Inch Nails fanatics is that NIN fanatics are fanatics because of the innovation, quality, artistry, and genius in the product... whereas Apple fans are simply brain washed. :-) |
| #2 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 1/13/2003 1:30:01 AM |
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3x as fast as IE on the Mac isn't saying much.
Great, one more stupid browser that doesn't work that I'll have to write clever javascript and HTML hacks to accomodate. |
| #3 By 116 (66.69.198.173) at 1/13/2003 2:57:22 AM |
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I tried this out and indeed Safari is very fast on the mac compared to IE.
However, it still gets crushed by anthing on the PC web browsing wise. This narrows the gap for some browsers considerably pc vs. mac. Fast? yes. Good? no. I hope to god this doesn't get 10% market share. Thats the last thing I need... Another browser that I have to target for. There are numerous bugs in this first beta and SSL is totally broken for a couple of our internal websites. DOM is pretty much broken for a lot of things. Check out a javascript website with this guy... This is probably the most basic browser I have ever seen. As for standards support it lags severely behind IE and Mozilla/Netscape and I don't see them catching up for a very long time. This thing will probably be in beta for the rest of the year. Ohhh and the real showstopper is the dreaded apple|option m which could reformat your mac. Watch out for that one! |
| #4 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 1/13/2003 9:53:34 AM |
| Menu looks good, Jagged. Kudos! |
| #5 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 1/13/2003 10:25:18 AM |
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"Uh huh. But PC's are 3 times faster than Macintosh's. Why spend more money on a Mac so you can surf at the the same speed you would on a PC -- especially when you can do everything else faster on a PC. "
PC's are NOT 3 times faster than Mac's. Higher clock speed? Yes. But NOT three times faster. And Mac's are not faster than PC's either. Somewhere inbetween the two extreemes is the truth. TL |
| #6 By 2960 (156.80.64.132) at 1/13/2003 10:27:29 AM |
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"Thats the last thing I need... Another browser that I have to target for. "
Just code to the standards and let the browsers take care of themselves... TL |
| #7 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 1/13/2003 10:43:36 AM |
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#10 - Well, the top PC (which is still a LOT cheaper than the top Mac) is often at least 2x as fast.
Support: http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii.htm http://www.robgalbraith.com/diginews/2003-01/2003_01_07_macpc.html Conclusion from that first article: "...according to our benchmarks here, if you have an After Effects composite that needs, say, two hours to render on the Mac, it’ll take you about an hour and 10 minutes on this PC." |
| #8 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 1/13/2003 11:21:36 AM |
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#11: The only browser that supports the standards is IE, from my experience.
I've written pages that are XHTML 1.0 compliant and CSS 2 compliant and Mozilla butchers them. The reality is that you have to: - Write to the standards (IE 5, 6) - Write for Netscape 4.x - Write for Mozilla/Netscape 6+ |
| #9 By 3653 (63.162.177.140) at 1/13/2003 12:08:17 PM |
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Am I supposed to be astonished or surprised by 300k downloads? Heck, I wouldn't be excited by 5 MILLION downloads.
This is only news in that it indicates that 300k designers took 5 minutes away from their work - and society lost 1,500,000 minutes (3125 man days) of pixel pushin. |
| #10 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 1/13/2003 1:57:54 PM |
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dupe, yipee! The latest Gecko still isn't 100% compliant. Even worse, IIRC, it doesn't provide backward compatibility support for the de facto HTML standards.
Joel provides a very good argument to support backward compatibility. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000054.html |
| #11 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 1/13/2003 7:17:53 PM |
| Or you can ignore the Mac since it has negligable market share. |
| #12 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 1/13/2003 7:19:54 PM |
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Ok... what the HELL does IIRC mean?
This is starting to tick me off. People are making these things up every day, and I can't keep up, and my head hurts, and I want a pizza. |
| #13 By 1913 (68.0.60.189) at 1/13/2003 9:26:13 PM |
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Well one thing that Apple didn't mention to everyone that they're only comparing their browser with IE 5.2.2 for the Mac, and their making it sound like it actually better than every MSIE version out there. Oh well.
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| #14 By 1845 (12.209.152.69) at 1/14/2003 4:51:45 AM |
| RMD, just visit acronymfinder.com to solve all your acronym needs. |
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