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December 2002 Netcraft Web Server Survey | |
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| Time: 00:24 EST/05:24 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein | ||
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The Netcraft Web Server Survey is a survey of Web Server software usage on Internet connected computers. We collect and collate as many hostnames providing an http service as we can find, and systematically poll each one with an HTTP request for the server name. In the December 2002 survey we received responses from 35,543,105 sites. Last week the Mono project released a new version of their Linux based implementation of the Microsoft .Net development framework. Mono enjoys an almost unique relationship with Microsoft amongst open source projects. Mono project leader Miguel de Icaza and Microsoft executives frequently say complimentary things about each other, with Microsoft presumably taking the view that any thing that helps establish .Net as a common development framework is a fine thing. So far, around 1% of internet sites using ASP.Net are Linux based, but it is early days both for the Mono project and for .Net itself, and both will be hoping to grow very significantly from current levels. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 1/2/2003 12:28:33 AM |
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This is excellent news. I've very happy to see Miguel and Mono succeeding.
Hopefully this will be the first step toward the Linux community becoming less dogmatic about their software choices, and more focused on the best tool for the job. |
| #2 By 135 (208.50.206.187) at 1/2/2003 1:23:19 AM |
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dupe - Somehow I rather suspect if a GPLed project felt Microsoft was infringing upon it's copyright they'd find a way to sue Microsoft.
What you've posted is called FUD. Just so you know. |
| #3 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 1/2/2003 8:53:34 AM |
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dupe - Mono is based of the portions of .NET that have been STANDARDIZED by the ISO and the ECMA.
How, exactly, can Microsoft sue a company for building a product off a standard? That would be like the people who wrote gcc getting sued for creating a C compiler. Wake up buddy. |
| #4 By 6253 (12.237.219.240) at 1/2/2003 10:22:20 AM |
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RMD, Mono also implements parts of .NET that have not been submitted to ECMA and ISO. They try to avoid bringing it up explicitly, but you can see hints in things like FAQ #6: "Our current focus is on inter-operating with the Microsoft SDK, but we will also offer an ECMA compliant set of libraries. " This is the part that could get them into trouble.
As for Netcraft's 1% figure, that's got to be some creative rounding-up. One out of every 100 ASP .NET servers sounds a bit high at this point. I'll bet Netcraft is still getting fooled by Linux-based firewalls/proxies in front of Windows servers. |
| #5 By 2332 (12.105.69.158) at 1/2/2003 10:35:42 AM |
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#6 - Actually, it was Gzip, not bzip.
#7 - "Mono also implements parts of .NET that have not been submitted to ECMA and ISO" Yes, very true... they are including ADO.NET (Data), ASP.NET (WebForms), and part of WinForms. So far, Microsoft has been supplying technical support to the Mono team while they develop these pieces. I don't think Microsoft can give the Mono team help, them sue them for using that help. Every single thing Microsoft has done shows they are fully supporting independant implementations of .NET for any platform... including Linux. Also, the reason Microsoft didn't standardize certain parts of .NET is because they were either very windows specific (such as WinForms), or they didn't have time to fully abstract their interfaces to make standardization easy (WinForms, ASP.NET). The one thing that puzzles me is ADO.NET. It is abstracted well from the underlying APIs (like ODBC, JET, TDS, etc.). Perhaps they didn't have time. |
| #6 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 1/2/2003 10:41:36 AM |
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Flight - It was actually the zlib library. It's a reference implementation for the HTTP 1.1 mod_gzip compression standard.
http://www.gzip.org/zlib/zlib_license.html Oh yeah... it's not GPLed code for a reason. holedup - Microsoft might sue Mono for patent infringement, and I might have a dragon in my garage. This post was edited by sodablue on Thursday, January 02, 2003 at 10:43. |
| #7 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 1/2/2003 11:55:27 AM |
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Of course, I must post my standard disclaimer:
Netcraft numbers are not obtained scientifically and they do not disclose how their numbers are obtained. For all we know, they could just be making them up to suit their agenda, whatever that may be. There are plenty of ways to mask or fudge your host head information to return erroneous information, not to mention the obfuscating properties of firewalls, load balancers and other devices. Netcraft has not sufficiently proven to the community that its numbers are trustworthy in any way, shape, or form and should not be paid attention to for intelligent discussion. /DISCLAIMER |
| #8 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 1/2/2003 10:24:05 PM |
| Sagan again! I love it! LOVE it! |
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