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  Linux poses real threat to Microsoft dominance
Time: 04:00 EST/09:00 GMT | News Source: Scotland on Sunday | Posted By: Byron Hinson

A quiet Finnish student called Linus Torvalds could go down in history as the man who brought Microsoft to its knees. There is not a great deal to do in Finland during the long winter evenings and, while a student at Helsinki University in the early 1990s, the young Torvalds, now a resident in Santa Clara, California, whiled away the dark hours creating a computer operating system that he believed would work better than those on the market.

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#1 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/10/2002 4:17:02 AM
Doesn't seem to me like Microsoft is on its knees. In fact, in the last few years (the years that Linux has supposedly been becoming some great power) Microsoft has grown ever taller. I read recently that since 1998 Microsoft's revenue and profit have doubled. If we gauge the effect Linux has had on Microsoft based on the financial viability of Microsoft, then I'd say Linux isn't having much of an effect on Microsoft (at least a negative one anyway).

#2 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/10/2002 11:31:39 AM
nom, I know you're just being a comical (read annoying) troll, but....

If we're talking long run, then shouldn't you be talking about OS XV? or perhaps OS XXV? It is not even remotely possible that OS X is going to make a scratch on a dent of difference in the OS world. If it had even a chance of reaching 5% marketshare in the next 5 years, Microsoft would acquire Apple in a heartbeat.

#3 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/10/2002 11:33:52 AM
I just realized something rather funny. I think there are at least 4 times the number of Windows developers in the world than there are OS X users. No wonder Apple is only 1/25th the size of Microsoft.

#4 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/10/2002 11:41:58 AM
Give me a link. Apples marketshare is in decline.

#5 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/10/2002 12:44:20 PM
Who is Apple? Do they make computers?

#6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 11/10/2002 12:53:38 PM
I ate an apple last night. I think it was a granny smith. It didn't come with the source code for its composition, but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

#7 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 11/10/2002 12:55:53 PM
Sigh...

Microsoft continues to maintain 95%+ of desktop market share.

Microsoft continues to gain substatially in server market share.

Where, exactly, is Microsoft loosing to Linux? Linux has gained almost nothing in desktop market share since its creation, and nearly all of its server market share gains have come not at the expense of Windows, but at the expense of a clueless Sun Microsystems, who continues to play nice with Linux even though it spells their dimise.

We've been hearing "Windows is doomed, Linux rules" for 8 years now... it's getting old.

It's kind of like the insistance that a Messiah will arrive on [Insert Favorite Dooms Day Date Here], and even when all the predictions fail, the sheep just pick a later date.

#8 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 11/10/2002 1:04:26 PM
Apple market share info:

"Apple's Market Share Falls Below 3 Percent
Apple has a lot of friends in the press, and in their gushing, glowing reviews of the new iMac, everyone seems to have overlooked one crucial fact: The company's worldwide market share has only fallen since Steve Jobs took the helm and no amount of coolness or design savvy can change that. Apple's share of the PC market fell from 3.3 percent in 2001 to less than 2.9 percent at the start of the year, though it controls about 5 percent of the US market, unchanged from the previous year." - Source: http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=23882

Gateway 2000 overtakes Apple in education sales
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=17264

Apple losing market share in desktop publishing
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=16989

Education Market Lost, Apple Lays Down Multimedia Gauntlet
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=26556

Windows Market Share Rises But PC Sales Flatten
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=26567

Top Stories of 2001, #6: Apple Fields an OS Contender, but Suffers Tough Year
http://www.wininformant.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=23789

Why are all my sources from Wininformant? Well, because Paul loves to rag on Apple, and so he always posts the Apple market share info. Don't trust the site? Well, it's not opinion... it's just numbers, and so if you find contradictory numbers, post links to them.

Otherwise, wake up and smell the rotting Apples.

This post was edited by RMD on Sunday, November 10, 2002 at 13:06.

#9 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/10/2002 2:23:30 PM
Linux marketshare remained stagnant, with a drop in revenue for 2001. Expect a similar trend for 2002.


The second coming will be next tuesday.

#10 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 11/10/2002 3:00:58 PM
Soda... you do know I'll have to call you on that when (er... if) it doesn't happen. :-)

#11 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/10/2002 6:44:49 PM
Have you noticed the way these articles are worded are designed to create strife? I mean, they talk about toppling Microsoft by gaining 1% marketshare.

Uhh, who cares?

Why don't you just work on making a good product and then convince people to buy it based on it's merits.

The second coming will be next wednesday.

#12 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 11/10/2002 8:51:14 PM
sodablue, i'm not sure i support your estimation of Linux's revenue going down in 2002. I mean... HOW CAN IT! It was only ~$100M in 2001. If it can't muster that much in 2002... then how pathetic is that.

We shall see...

My estimate, FWIW, is that Linux's market share stays the same in 2002, and revenue goes up 5% (assuming inflation is 3% this year. Ha).

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