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  Microsoft welcomes court decision on deal with US Govt
Time: 19:06 EST/00:06 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Byron Hinson

Microsoft has said it is pleased with a court decision to accept its settlement with the US Government and nine states over illegal squelching of competitors. "We are pleased that the court has conditionally approved the settlement we reached with the Federal Government and the nine states," the software giant said in a statement. The settlement, reached between the US Government and Microsoft in November last year, imposes no financial penalty. Instead, it forces billionaire Bill Gates' software company to disclose some technical information and bars agreements on Microsoft products that would exclude competitors.

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#1 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 11/1/2002 7:31:16 PM
Ah... it's nice to be right. ;-p

#2 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/1/2002 8:02:30 PM
Ahh, speaking of Clinton... This one just showed up on msnbc:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/828688.asp?0cl=c2

It's time to ask yourself... Are you better off now then you were only two years ago?

#3 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/1/2002 9:14:53 PM
Oh yes, kevinu, George W. doesn't care about the people of the US.

What you are saying has a name, and it's called fanaticism, rather than bashing the man because the person you voted for (most likely) didn't end up in office, why don't you take the time to actually think before you speak (or write).

With that attitude, it's no wonder that people say "Dumb Americans".

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Same goes for arkansas

This post was edited by CPUGuy on Friday, November 01, 2002 at 21:16.

#4 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/1/2002 10:35:00 PM
jpursell - We only attribute the great economy to Clinton because he deserves the credit.

CPUGuy - "What you are saying has a name, and it's called fanaticism". Out of curiousity, were you voicing this same complaint against the GOP when they couldn't handle losing in '92 and '96 and launched numerous false accusations and investigations against him?




This post was edited by sodablue on Friday, November 01, 2002 at 22:38.

#5 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/1/2002 10:42:10 PM
I was much younger in 92 and 96.

#6 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 11/2/2002 12:03:29 AM
soda, you perplex me... to be so right on technology and so utterly clueless on politics. Just remember, when you vote next week... that I have already cancelled your vote out. Think of me while you are in that booth.

BTW... Clinton was the worse thing this country has done to itself in decades. We can thank that perv for the ongoing problems with Al Qaida, Iraq, and North Korea. While he was prancing around kissing trees and having a subordinate employee suck him off... the bad guys of the world were putting the World Trade Center and our friends (S. Korea, Japan, Israel, even parts of Europe) in harms way. And the Clinton "legacy" doesn't end there. He is also largely responsible for Gore's defeat and the defeat of countless Democratic Senate and House candidates. Damn, on second thought maybe Clinton WAS a good thing for this country.

#7 By 2332 (65.221.182.3) at 11/2/2002 12:13:07 AM
Ah yes... having a womanizer who was also a brilliant man is worse than having a life long loser who is also an idiot.

Give me a break people. People who STILL attack Clinton are starting to sound like the same people who insist alien visitation happens, and that John Edwards is a sign from God.

Grow up.

#8 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/2/2002 12:56:42 AM
RMD, I'm guessing you are referring to Bush when you say idiot, however, this shows that a) you know nothing about the man, and b) you are incredibly imature.

mhfm: Why did they send their kids to private schools, perhaps because you can get a better education from a private school than with a public (depends on the schools). The idea of a public school system is so EVERYONE can get educated, not just the rich, however, that doesn't mean that the rich should send their kids to public schools.

#9 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/2/2002 3:26:33 AM
mooresa56 - If all you are going to do is sit there and feed Rush Limbaugh illogic, then you are in no place to call me clueless.

Just look at the crap you spewed. You actually believe that? Get a grip already. Go read David Brock's book, start taking a look at the newspaper. Turn of Rush Limbaugh and start dealing with reality rather than the fantasy world the GOP would have you believe.

CPUGuy - I'm sorry if I offend your sensibilities, but you know what... Tough. There's nothing worse than someone who whines when people defend their principles.


This post was edited by sodablue on Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 03:36.

#10 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/2/2002 3:38:36 AM
mhfm - Why do you even waste your time posting?

You and mooresa56 can have fun with your little fantasy worlds, I'll stick with reality thank you.

#11 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 11/2/2002 6:41:32 AM
I hope Microsoft will be reinvigorated by this decision, and will remember who put them there in the first place. Time to take action to destroy the communistic GNU/Linux, AOL and SUN.

#12 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/2/2002 11:46:06 AM
Soda, ok, yes, I'm whining, I'm the one blamming everything that has gone wrong on a single man who has only been in power for 2 years, I'm the one bashing anything other party does.... oh wait, that's you.

You are no better than ABMers when it comes to this issue.

#13 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/2/2002 1:13:50 PM
Christ it is so amazing how otherwise intelligent people can turn their brains to mush when it comes to discussing politics.

CPUGuy - Who said anything about Bush or today's economy?

I'm talking about the 1990's here. I'm responding to GOP attempts to whitewash the positive changes that Clinton brought about.

So yes, you are whining... just like the ABMers. At least my position both with regards to Microsoft and politics is completely consistent.

#14 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 11/2/2002 2:02:14 PM
sodablue, uncharacteristic for you... that you ignore my post and immediately try to "label" me as a listener of Limbaugh. LOL. I haven't heard a word from that guy since he had a TV program (5 years ago?). But if your thinking I bow to the Limbaugh throne helps you feel better about your own twisted views... then have at it.

Fact is we had an old man clinton who took advantage of a woman barely in her twenties. He was the most powerful man on the planet, and he chose to belittle a young woman by having her suck his dinkey. Pathetic. Truly a dark dark 8 years for this country.

But those days are behind us. We now have a LEADER in GeorgeW... a man with character and conviction. He is a man that can get repubs and demos behind him... as evidenced by his stellar first 2 years where every one of his campaign promises has been made good upon (except school vouchers, which will happen with a repub majority in the senate next year).

The clinton "legacy" has left the demos with such a pathetic group of presidential possibilities (Gore? LOL. Daschle? LOL) that they will be feeling defeat for at least another 4 years. It'll take them at least that long to recover and repackage their old Marxist ideas into pretty rainbow-colored packages that can fool the American public.

This post was edited by mooresa56 on Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 14:02.

#15 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 11/2/2002 4:00:12 PM
And if Ronald Reagan could have been on the ballot in 1992, he would have won. WHO CARES? Thats a stupid argument macrosslover. If Karl Marx was on the ballot, he might win too... at least he'd get a few voters from this board.

And thanks for articulating such a self-defeating response.

#16 By 10896 (24.25.182.11) at 11/2/2002 5:06:33 PM
Hail to the Thief
Another Bush Another Recession

At least 540,000 more americans voted for Gore. And what went on in Florida amounted to a political coup d'etat by the Bush brothers.

#17 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/2/2002 6:29:53 PM
mooresa56 - I label you because you keep bringing up the same tired old rhetoric characteristic of Rush Limbaugh. If you don't want that label, start thinking for yourself.

"Fact is we had an old man clinton who took advantage of a woman barely in her twenties."

Nice wording... Fact is it was consensual. Fact is also it was none of your business.

"He is a man that can get repubs and demos behind him..."

He's done a piss poor job at that. The partisanship in Washington is worse now than it's ever been. Sure in the past the Democrats just stepped to the side while the GOP rolled over America, but 2000 proved how dangerous that position is and now they're fighting back.

"It'll take them at least that long to recover and repackage their old Marxist ideas into pretty rainbow-colored packages that can fool the American public."

Marxist ideas like Free markets you mean? I see your *cough* Leader *cough* Bush is already out there endowing our markets with protectionism by implementing quotas, tarriffs and other nonsense.

Go back and look at Clinton's economic policy. It was simple and effective. Smaller, more efficient government. Balanced budget, fiscal responsibility. Create jobs in the private sector so people are less dependent upon the public sector.

And you call this Marxist? That's the American dream your attacking.

And you wonder why I label you a idle minded Limbaugh lover.

Anyway... Don't blame me, I voted with the majority.


#18 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/2/2002 6:30:39 PM
mhfm - Do you even have the first clue what Communism is?

Oh, BTW... mooresa56 - Have you realized yet just how much you have in common with mhfm?

This post was edited by sodablue on Saturday, November 02, 2002 at 18:31.

#19 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/2/2002 11:48:56 PM
kevinu: The whole idea of drilling in Alaska is to rid ourselves of the dependance on OPEC countries (most of which are Islamic nations, which often curse the US because it's not Islamic). This is something we have to do.

Now, agreed, we do need to get away from such a dependance on oil itself, however, what you don't see is that we have tons of programs researching alternative power sources, heck, they even have college grad students do things like build a house that runs completely off solar power, yet still uses the same amount of power as a typical home. BMW (which is a German company that does most of its work here in the US now) is currently testing a prototype vehicle that runs off of hydrogen.

First thing is to rid ourselves of the need for OPEC countries, and then get away from oil as a whole, you can't just drop it right away, if you do, I guarentee you that you will see a lot more terrorism both here and abroad.

You simply have no understanding of what we are truely doing for alternative power sources.

Second, you ever hear of the whitewater scandal? There is more than just a damn BJ from a secretary that Clinton was involved in... of course what people on both sides of the fence don't realize is that ALL politicians are involved in one scandal or another.

As I've said before, democrat, republic, it doesn't matter, in the end, they are all politicians.

#20 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/3/2002 4:57:45 PM
CPUGuy - "Second, you ever hear of the whitewater scandal? There is more than just a damn BJ from a secretary that Clinton was involved in... of course what people on both sides of the fence don't realize is that ALL politicians are involved in one scandal or another. "

So tell us about Whitewater. You do realize that nothing illegal was ever found there, right?

The Republican Party through the 1990's was involved in a pattern of behavior where they fabricated scandals in order to distract President Clinton from governing. Whitewater was one such example. Paula Jones was another. (Oh did you realize that David Hale(of Whitewater) and Paula Jones were both paid by Republicans(notably Richard Mellon-Scaife) to testify?) Troopergate, Travelgate... numerous other ones. There were accusations that Clinton ran drugs out of Arkansas, that he had Vince Foster assassinated. That he had Ron Brown assassinated.

The list of accusations just goes on and on. Not one of these accusations ever panned out to be true, but that was never the intent. As I said, the investigations distracted the President from being able to govern.

So in 1998 after Al Qaeda bombed a US Embassy, Clinton launched missiles into Afghanistan to try to nail Osama bin Laden. This was reported by the Republicans as an attempt to distract attention from the impeachment trial.

Well history has now shown us that had the Republicans not been so bitter about losing in '92 and '96 and had let President Clinton govern instead of defending himself constantly against false attacks... We very well might have been in a position to invade Afghanistan in 1998 and eliminate the Taliban.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what effect such attention in 1998 would have had to events which played out on 9/11/01.

While I see criticism today of Republicans, I still do not see near the level of hatred, spite, visciousness, and just sheer meaness as was represented by the Arkansas Project. President Bush still has the support of Democrats in the pursuit of terrorists. Such consideration was never given President Clinton

I think maybe you ought to educate yourself on the issues involved today, instead of trying to portray all politicians as being the same as Republicans.

#21 By 135 (208.50.201.48) at 11/3/2002 5:03:12 PM
zOOker - BTW. If you want, I'll be glad to take all of President Bush's recent policy decisions and tear them apart just on merit.

A couple of recent examples:

Imposing steel tarrifs - This is an example of protectionism, and is against the fundamentals of free trade. It's short sighted, insomuchas it helps the steel industry but harms all industries downstream. Most notably automobiles, as it artificially increases the price at which they must pay for their raw materials. This hurts their ability to compete in the market.

This same issue came across President Clinton's desk and he ignored it, because he believes in free trade whereas President Bush does not.

#22 By 61 (65.32.170.1) at 11/4/2002 12:45:00 AM
soda:

If you think that democrats are somehow better than republicans, you are HIGHLY mistaken, both parties in general have their flaws, both attack the other party needlessly, etc.... Do NOT go and say that the Republicans are somehow evil while the democrats are not.

I think that you are either a) incredibly stupid, or b) incredibly brainwashed into the thinking that one party is better than another. It's about what YOU believe in, what YOUR intrests are, what YOU think needs to change and what YOU think needs to stay the same.
It's NOT about what this party is doing to that party, or what this party has done that is evil.

There is NO POINT to this political war. Why pick sides? In the end, the issues that need to truely be taken care of NEVER get taken care of, the greater good is NEVER achieved.

The whitewater comment was just an example in proving what I have stated above, it was not an attack on Bill or to the deomocratic party.

I'll close with this: I am a registered republican, however, on Tuesday, I will NOT be voting for Jeb. Why is that? Because I feel he has done more harm than good to the state and needs to be taken out of office. It's not about the party, it's about the person running, what are his/her ideals, is that person able to get things done, etc...

Anyway, that just my political philosphy, but what do I know, I'm just a 19yr old kid, right?

#23 By 3653 (65.190.70.73) at 11/4/2002 11:35:50 PM
soda, let me pick you apart line by line. my responses are ALL CAPS... just to help you sort out this post...

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mooresa56 - I label you because you keep bringing up the same tired old rhetoric characteristic of Rush Limbaugh. If you don't want that label, start thinking for yourself.

DID YOU READ MY POST. I SAID I DIDN'T LISTEN TO LIMBAUGH. THEREFORE, I'M NOT BRINGING UP HIS IDEAS. THEY ARE MY OWN.

"Fact is we had an old man clinton who took advantage of a woman barely in her twenties."

Nice wording... Fact is it was consensual. Fact is also it was none of your business.

NO ARGUMENT ABOUT IT BEING CONSENSUAL. BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. IF MY CEO HAD MY SECRETARY SUCK HIM OFF... DONT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR MY COMPANY? HELL YES. AND GUESS WHAT, THIS IS MY GOVERNMENT. SO MY CONCERN IS WELL PLACED. IT DEFINITELY IS MY BUSINESS. IT SHOWS THAT HE IS A PIECE OF SCUM, JUST LIKE THOSE WHO WOULD SO EASILY DISMISS HIS TRANSGRESSIONS.

"He is a man that can get repubs and demos behind him..."

He's done a piss poor job at that. The partisanship in Washington is worse now than it's ever been. Sure in the past the Democrats just stepped to the side while the GOP rolled over America, but 2000 proved how dangerous that position is and now they're fighting back.

ARE YOU BLIND? DID YOU NOT NOTICE THE DEMOS VOTING FOR THE "UNHEARD OF IN DEMOCRAT LAND" TAX CUT? BUSH DID THE ULIMATE JOB OF BRINGING TOGETHER BOTH SIDES.

"It'll take them at least that long to recover and repackage their old Marxist ideas into pretty rainbow-colored packages that can fool the American public."

Marxist ideas like Free markets you mean? I see your *cough* Leader *cough* Bush is already out there endowing our markets with protectionism by implementing quotas, tarriffs and other nonsense.

QUOTAS? HOW DARE YOU. AFTER YOU APPLY THAT TERM TO EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN... NAMELY RACE, GENDER, AND FINANCIAL STATUS. YOU DEMOCRATS ALWAYS DIVIDE THE POPULOUS BY THOSE CHARACTERISTICS, AND SET TO PLAY EACH GROUP AGAINST ONE ANOTHER... ALL THE WHILE SOAKING UP MORE AND MORE OF EACH GROUP'S RIGHTS.

AND IN YOUR FAIRY TELL LAND, DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT REPUBS ARE INVENTING TARRIFFS? DEMOCRATS ARE THE KINGS OF THE TAX AND REGULATE IDEA. IN CASE YOU DONT REALIZE IT, TARRIFFS ARE A TAX AND REGULATE IDEA. I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD LIKE THEM.

Go back and look at Clinton's economic policy. It was simple and effective. Smaller, more efficient government. Balanced budget, fiscal responsibility. Create jobs in the private sector so people are less dependent upon the public sector.

YOU ARE INSANE. NO OTHER RESPONSE IS POSSIBLE. YOU ARE REWRITING HISTORY... AND DOING A VERY TRANSPARENTLY DISHONEST JOB AT IT... I MIGHT ADD.

And you call this Marxist? That's the American dream your attacking.

I'M ATTACKING YOUR "EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD PROSPER THE SAME AS THEIR NEIGHBOR, NO MORE, NO LESS" IDEAS. DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT AMERICA REALIZES WHAT YOU NEW-AGE SOCIALISTS ARE UP TO? THEY AREN'T SO EASILY FOOLED, AS YOU WOULD LIKE.

And you wonder why I label you a idle minded Limbaugh lover.

AGAIN, DID YOU READ MY EARLIER POST. I'M NOT A LIMBAUGH LISTENER. ARE YOU READING MY ENTIRE POST? READ IT AGAIN. ITS #27.

Anyway... Don't blame me, I voted with the majority.

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