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Time: 10:38 EST/15:38 GMT | News Source: E-Mail | Posted By: Byron Hinson

  • VTL to support for Microsoft.NET mobile application
    VisualSoft Technologies, a software solutions and product development company, today announced support for Microsoft.NET mobile application development.
  • AOL takes on Microsoft in a battle for your PC
    It's the battle of the eights -- as in Version 8. Even if you're a casual Internet user, there's no way you're going to miss this digital firefight. The participants are the Web's superpowers, America Online and Microsoft, and the theater of operations is the Internet, with both companies unleashing multimillion-dollar advertising campaigns to win you over to the latest version of their Web software, both dubbed Version 8.0. features contained in their upgrades. About 44 million people access the Internet through one of the two services.
  • Microsoft wants better Best Buy deal
    With an eye on the bottom line of its MSN unit, Microsoft says it wants a new agreement with Best Buy. The companies' advertising and profit-sharing deal, which includes the promotion of the MSN Internet service in Best Buy stores, expires in March, the companies said. The companies are in negotiations to continue the agreement, but Microsoft wants better terms than it has under the current pact, MSN spokeswoman Parul Shah said.
  • Neowin Closes Again
    Due to mis-understandings about ad's on Neowin we have been forced to close the site We already have offers of hosting and are not looking in that direction right now. We are not sure at the moment what will happen with the site. It has been for the most part a fun 2 years to do Neowin theres a lot of reasons to continue but there are also many reasons to stop. Whatever we do we will keep this space informed.

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#1 By 2138 (62.201.74.7) at 10/17/2002 10:49:12 AM
This is a pity about neowin.

belto...

#2 By 860 (207.111.170.131) at 10/17/2002 12:10:25 PM
AGAIN!? You've gotta be kidding me. This is the 3rd time, isn't it (about Neowin)...? Bah, their hit counter must've gotten low again. Ridiculous. I just wish they'd shut down so I don't have to hear their self-pity parties on every other news site on the net.

#3 By 20 (24.243.41.64) at 10/17/2002 12:46:37 PM
#7: Actually, AWin and NeoWin kinda reached an understanding. Since the news they both post is very similar, there's bound to be overlap and appearances of copying.

It's a fact that when some people submit news, they submit to both NeoWin and ActiveWin, so it's just a matter of who reads the email and posts it first, but the source is the same.

There was a big misunderstand between the two where NeoWin accused AWin of copying, and AWin was miffed because they felt NeoWin had been copying AWin for quite awhile.

#4 By 2 (24.54.153.247) at 10/17/2002 1:47:33 PM
#11 - Actually there was no understanding. There can't be one, since they refuse to talk to us.

#5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 10/17/2002 2:48:23 PM
JWM: No, they've closed two other times before. Once where they posted a shutdown notice, then after getting attention changed it to a temporary notice. They were back up for a few days, then they went down hard for a couple weeks. Came back up, lasted about a month and well... now we're back there again.

My experience is that PHP-Nuke sites tend to attract only 12 year olds. I don't know what it is, but a couple of automobile forums like autopia.ws behave nearly the same way.

#6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 4:27:29 PM
z00k - Lol!

I'm not sure if under 12 or high schoolers is the best description. I'd jus so software pirates in general.

Also, what does PHP-Nuke mean?

#7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 6:20:08 PM
Anyone use VTL? I'd like to hear from anyone with personal experience with it.

#8 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 10:04:00 PM
Grr.

#9 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 10/17/2002 10:05:56 PM
I assumed it was a slang term. I wasn't expecting it to be a software package. Thanks for the tip.

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