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HP fires 'Microsoft-baiting' Perens | |
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| Time: 12:03 EST/17:03 GMT | News Source: The Register | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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HP has fired Bruce Perens - the leading Open Source evangelist and former Debian project lead - for Microsoft-baiting, he says. "It came after a long, long warning," Perens told the New York Times. "The thing that I did that was most hazardous for HP is the Microsoft-baiting I tend to do." Perens joined HP as Open Source adviser less than two years ago. At the time, he was given "http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=00/12/05/1145237&mode=thread">carte blanche to continue expressing his own opinions -- both to the public, and to Hewlett-Packard". | ||
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| #1 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/9/2002 12:21:39 PM |
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It sounds as though HP warned Perens to act professionally, instead of heeding their advice he went the opposite direction and got more and more vocal with his zealotry. HP fired him because Peren's actions reflected poorly on their image as a corporation.
The Open-Sores crowd over on /. is, of course, blaming Microsoft and the clueless management at HP and well just about everybody but themselves and Perens. They don't seem to understand that it is that attitude which dooms them to being second-class citizens of the IT world. This is quite a tremendous loss for Open-Source. Linux peaked about a year or two ago and is now on a declining swing, and I seriously do not think the Linux zealots will ever "get it" where they can do something to change that fact. |
| #2 By 8062 (206.72.66.205) at 9/9/2002 12:40:06 PM |
| OpenSource leads to OpenSores. My mother warned me that would happen. |
| #3 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 9/9/2002 1:21:29 PM |
| davis, you're a belt and suspenders guy aren't you? |
| #4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/9/2002 1:36:21 PM |
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The corporations control the content because they created the content. If you don't want to be controlled, then don't use the content, simple as that. I really really cannot stand people whining about how it's unfair that they can't get Britany Spears because the corporations are unfairly controlling the content when the only reason they listen to her crap is because they are sheep to the corporate marketing to begin with.
Anyway this doesn't have much to do with Perens other than it is another symptom of an epidemic problem of whining that plagues the open-sores community. |
| #5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/9/2002 2:51:07 PM |
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davis bacon - I hope 1982 is early enough for ya, my first computer at home ran CP/M.
Microsoft didn't make those companies disappear... Those companies disappeared due to lack of interest from consumers. But again, one could make a similar comparison to the automobile, radio and other industries. At the time Ford came out with the Model-T there were more manufacturers of automobiles by a factor of around 100 than there are today. As the industry matured, the weaker companies fell to the wayside. Again, it is this whining that will always make the open-sores proponents second-class citizens. |
| #6 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/9/2002 5:23:02 PM |
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I consider myself to be a person of integrity, and I actively support Microsoft. I wonder how much you actually know about Microsoft as a company. I wonder how much you know it its history, internal debates, strategies, and so forth.
Here's the dilema. Microsoft engaged in legal business practices. Microsoft was found to be a monopoly. Retroactively, Microsoft's legal business practices became illegal because Microsoft was found to be a monopoly. It is my opinion, that the anti trust laws in the United States are foolish and contradictory. That is a debate for another time though. I can fully support a company that at the time they were implementing particular strategies were doing so in full view of the law (how many lawyers look at EULAS?) and were doing so legally. Has Microsoft changed its business practices since the anti trust case? Yes! Microsoft is a company that does a lot to support developers. They have perhaps the best site (MSDN) for developers that exists in the industry. They put on web casts, web seminars, trade shows, free developer conferences, large fee based developer conferences. They offer developer pricing for all of their products. They expose many API's and provide documentation for those API's via SDK's for nearly all of their products. They provide thousands of moderated newsgroups. Microsoft, in my opinion, recognized and continues to recognize that it must treat its developers well, so that they will continue to build on its platforms. As a developer on Microsoft's platforms, I can say that its competition - Netscape, Oracle, Sun, Corel, IBM, Novell - have yet to offer me as much as Microsoft has. Microsoft makes my life easier, which enables me to make my clients lives easier. I'll step off my soap box now. |
| #7 By 1845 (12.254.162.111) at 9/9/2002 6:23:22 PM |
| ty |
| #8 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/9/2002 6:27:21 PM |
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BobSmith - Well said!
Back to Perens... I read the crap on /. and it made me want to puke. These people seriously just do not get it. |
| #9 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/10/2002 12:02:07 PM |
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I liked the "Martyr" comment... He's completely right.
Unfortunately Reality Master 101 also doesn't know much about politics, this guy got it spot on though: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=39532&cid=4221782 |
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