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| Time: 10:43 EST/15:43 GMT | News Source: Washington Post | Posted By: Andi Stabryla | ||
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Google won a temporary court order to stop the Interior Department from moving ahead with an e-mail project that favored Microsoft, after alleging impropriety in bidding on the $49.3 million contract. | ||
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| #1 By 15406 (209.87.228.158) at 1/6/2011 11:42:17 AM |
| Nothing will change. Bid rules are so easy to game and get around. This time, though, they'll look at the Google offering and then decide that the cheque in their pocket from Microsoft says that they should go with Microsoft. |
| #2 By 23603 (96.20.121.224) at 1/6/2011 12:57:42 PM |
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They will choose Microsoft for their easy to use and simple solution , innovative client (outlook 2010), full calendering and collaboration support and HUGE ecosystem of solution integration.
Email in Google's hand.......NO thank you....scary actually This post was edited by EQ23 on Thursday, January 06, 2011 at 13:00. |
| #3 By 15406 (209.87.228.158) at 1/6/2011 2:57:38 PM |
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#2: Don't you worry you little head about it; MS will win the bid regardless. My wife is a buyer and knows every trick in the book for sole sourcing something that's up for open bid. Just tighten the requirements so that only one vendor qualifies, and then say your hands are tied.
Why is email with Google scary? |
| #4 By 12071 (124.171.24.15) at 1/7/2011 5:16:33 AM |
| #3 Because Google reads all your emails... and they spy on you... and they target you... and they come into your home and eat your cookies... Microsoft on the other hand don't do any of those things, they're the ethical and moral choice and have demonstrated that in the last 20 years. Google BAD, Microsoft GOOD! |
| #5 By 28801 (65.90.202.10) at 1/7/2011 7:31:53 AM |
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#4: Microsoft doesn't need to read your emails. The Kinect secretly routes all video and audio from your livingroom to Microsoft.
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| #6 By 15406 (209.87.228.158) at 1/7/2011 7:50:31 AM |
| #4: That's what I thought. Funny how only die-hard microbots are scared of Google. |
| #7 By 2332 (173.13.97.180) at 1/7/2011 10:22:33 AM |
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Government contracts should go to the best bid, not the bid from the company with the most lobbiest, the best inside relationships, or the most previous dealings.
If Microsoft got the deal without the Government giving a fare shake to Google, than this lawsuit is totally valid. If, however, Microsoft got the contract because Google's offerings are immature and didn't mean the minimum security specs required (which appears to be the case), then this is just Google trying to cost Microsoft money by delaying the implementation of their contract. Instead, perhaps they should spend their time getting their products out of perpetual beta and add some real security to them while their at it. |
| #8 By 15406 (209.87.228.158) at 1/7/2011 10:38:52 AM |
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#7: I see what you did there. You guess it might be A or B, and then crap on Google for your B assumption. All the articles seem to say it was A. Edit: This is the first article I've read on it that had any mention of security concerns. What security concerns? From who? If they're that concerned about security, why are they running Windows? Funny how that only came up by the people caught doing the bid rigging after the fact. Sounds like weasel words to try and justify the sole sourcing. Google likely wasn't even evaluated as the bid specifically called for Microsoft Business Productivity Suite.
Instead, perhaps they should spend their time getting their products out of perpetual beta You're that upset by an arbitrary tag? You'd prefer they do what most others in the industry seem to do, release their betas as GA and let the users do their testing? and add some real security to them while their at it. That's rich, coming from a Microsoft fan. This post was edited by Latch on Friday, January 07, 2011 at 11:11. |
| #9 By 7754 (206.169.247.114) at 1/7/2011 5:12:58 PM |
| #8, you're really touting Google as much better at security today? When at one point you could listen to another person's voicemail on their system? Right. |
| #10 By 12071 (124.171.24.15) at 1/7/2011 7:06:50 PM |
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#5 "The Kinect secretly routes all video and audio from your livingroom to Microsoft."
Don't forget that's already on top of all the secret information that your operating system is continually sending back to Microsoft HQ :) #6 That's it... and they will happily point at others and throw around words like ethical, secure etc without for a second considering how their #1 company ranks in those categories. #7 "Government contracts should go to the best bid, not the bid from the company with the most lobbiest, the best inside relationships, or the most previous dealings." In an ideal world yes... in America however it goes to the latter company each and every time - let's call it corporatism. Which is why Microsoft will win this bid in the end - so never fear :) |
| #11 By 15406 (99.240.77.173) at 1/8/2011 11:38:47 AM |
| #9: All I'm saying is that Google should be given a fair shake. That's all. |
| #12 By 228224 (74.59.85.152) at 1/8/2011 3:08:04 PM |
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Microsoft will still win the contract - a paltry $49 million. The US government will re-word the requirements and still Google won't have the right combination of crap of theirs to win the contract even when they are this time under consideration. Then Google will belly ache and complain again and take the government to court. In the end Google's lawyers will be rich and the government will end up losing money - part by paying the lawyers and part by the time wasted with the court battle while government employess could of been [hopefully] more productive. Seems to me Google likes to get everything their way - if not, they complain.
#5: So what does KInect have to do with this story? I suspect the government isn't using it in day to day operations. Maybe just grasping at straws? #11: If the government [or any company] is contracting out something, shouldn't they be allowed to choose what parameters are part of the contract? Would this be like you leasing a car and you want a specific feature. You compared cars from two manufacturers and one didn't have the feature. So you chose the one that did. Now the loser is taking you to court. [Maybe not quite a perfect example but close.] |
| #13 By 15406 (209.87.228.158) at 1/10/2011 8:02:57 AM |
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#12: So you're saying that the gov't will do an end-run around their own procurement regulations and somehow Google has no right to complain? Why is that, because your boy MS gets the contract and that's all that matters??
#11: It's the gov't job to be responsible with the people's money, and one of the ways they do that is the bidding process which allows them to create a competitive marketplace for goods & services the gov't requires. They have rules in place to keep the shadiness (somewhat) in check, and these rules are being broken in this example. To borrow your analogy, what if you were renting a car on behalf of your company? You *must* have auto transmission and a heated seat. You can get a Ford Focus with those for $100 per day. You can get a stretch Hummer with those for $600 per day. How happy would your company be if you rented the Hummer? But don't worry, you can tell your company you have the right to choose whichever car you want, even though you aren't picking up the tab. How well would that fly, do you think? |
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