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  ActiveWin.com: Microsoft Visual Studio .NET Integrated Developer Environment (IDE) - Review
Time: 01:00 EST/06:00 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

Roy has just posted his long awaited review of the Visual Studio .NET IDE. Here is an excerpt:

When I first decided to write a review of Visual Studio .NET, I thought it would be simple and straight forward. I mean, it was not a review on the .NET initiative, but of the Visual Studio IDE itself, and all integrated development environments are pretty much the same. You have an editor to write the code in, a way to compile your application with a single command, and most have nice debugging features built into the system. However, the Visual Studio .NET IDE has left me feeling a bit overwhelmed by the vast number of features and options that are available without making it complicated to use.

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#1 By 233 (193.251.83.222) at 3/27/2002 4:29:03 AM
I don't understand why a review on Visual Studio .NET doesn't speak about the new languages (C#, VB .Net, etc.) and the .NET initiative. That's unbelievable! You can't give a note to a product you partly review, that's incredible. Plus next time you should make the screenshots smaller to make sure nobody can see them.

#2 By 233 (193.251.83.222) at 3/27/2002 4:45:33 AM
Yes I realized that. But IMHO the most interesting thing of Visual Studio .NET is the new programming language not the IDE. So I find this review useless and incomplete.

This post was edited by linxeye on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 04:45.

#3 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/27/2002 5:41:24 AM
The new programming languages have nothing to do with VS.NET, just as C++ has nothing to do with VC++ 6. There are countless resources on the NET to learn about .NET, and the languages it ships with - gotdotnet.com being a good place to start.

This review only scratches the surface of what you can do with VS.NET, but I'm very surprised Debugging got only an 86%, and Extensibility only got an 87%!

VS.NET has the coolest debugging abilities I've ever seen, including the ability to seamlessly debug across different languages, processes, and even entire machines.

I can debug an SQL stored procedure (yes, debug... as in with watch variables, a mouse-over value displays) that resides on a server anywhere on the Internet, that is exposed via a Web service written in VB.NET, which is access from a client application written in C#. So I'm traversing 3 different languages, 3 different processes, and 2 (or more!) physical machines... all by setting a break point. What more do you want? Fried chicken to come out of your printer!?

As far as extensibility, I can create VS.NET extension right inside VS.NET with a VS.NET Component project. I've seen some *awesome* VS.NET extensions, especially the ones from Rational software, which are incredibly complex applications embedded directly inside VS.NET, and integrated seamlessly with the existing tools.

Not to mention the fact that 3rd parties can write entirely new languages (or support for older ones) that will all work within VS.NET as first class citzens! So I can write/debug Eiffel.NET (RMD.NET, for that matter!) code inside VS.NET just like I can write/debug C#.

The only issues I've had with VS.NET are ones that revolve around group projects that deal with multi-file assemblies. Alas, VS.NET doesn't support multi-file assemblies right now... so it makes it difficult to work with them. I've also had some issues with dependencies and deployment... but they were minor and easy to work around.

Other than that, VS.NET rocks my world. It's a 95% in my book... if not better.

#4 By 2459 (66.25.124.8) at 3/27/2002 5:52:20 AM
RMD, Good post, but the CD Burner is the best place to make fried chicken.
The printer always gives it an inky flavor. :-)

This post was edited by n4cer on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 at 05:53.

#5 By 233 (193.248.229.227) at 3/27/2002 7:22:03 AM
#4: OK so if you ever review a car you won't speak about the engine? You'll concentrate on the design, the comfort of its interior, the features of the radio set, etc. I repeat I can't conceive a review of Visual Studio .NET without a few words being said on the languages it supports. That's my point of view, though.

#6 By 2 (24.54.153.167) at 3/27/2002 8:53:10 AM
Well, there are actually a few words...."Visual C# .NET, a new object-oriented programming language, combines the power of C and C++ with the functional ease of modern, rapid application development (RAD) tools. "

#7 By 2 (24.54.153.167) at 3/27/2002 12:12:18 PM
11# We didn't even get a copy of Visual Studio .NET. Don't comment on things before you have the facts on what is going on. There are tons of things we purchase ourselves. Like Xbox games, etc. Have a nice day! :-)

Also, if you know so much about how things should be done - where is your website? Or why don't you contact me personally and express your opinion in a dignified manner rather than posting a comment?

#8 By 2332 (129.21.145.80) at 3/27/2002 4:12:47 PM
#15 - With Yukon (next release of SQL Server), yes, you will be able to do all the things you mentioned.

At any rate, I know of no other package on the market that gives as rich a debugging experience as VS.NET.

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