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Time: 02:22 EST/07:22 GMT | News Source: ActiveWin.com | Posted By: Robert Stein

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#1 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 11/9/2004 8:34:22 AM
Getting through Mozilla.org is pretty much impossible right now. Here is the direct link to the FTP server:

http://207.200.85.49/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/0.9/

Actually, that's for Thunderbird 0.9 which was also released (but not reported). You can figure it out from there :)

#2 By 10557 (68.163.17.192) at 11/9/2004 9:03:45 AM
I have only two remarks:

1 - Try the Indiana University mirror (extremely fast):
http://mozilla.ussg.indiana.edu/pub/mozilla.org/

2a - Firefox ("FF" in Mozilla-Fan Lingo) is okay, but about three-quarters of its "benefits" are total hogwash. It imports your favorites when it is first installed; all subsequent installs retain the original install's favorites. Even though I uninstalled a beta version months ago before installing 1.0 Final, it kept the old favorites which were quite outdated; and the "IE Links" were not updated either. Even with its updater, it did not work properly.

2b - I read a recent PCWorld/PCWeek/eWeek/Whatever-the-title-was article that actually highlighted a lot of deficiencies. Most notably, it would require every other website to redesign ITSELF to support Firefox, as opposed to Firefox supporting websites. IE for instance, supports websites.

If you are like myself, you'll probably end up removing Firefox 1.0... as I did with every other previous release (1.0PR, 0.9.x, 0.8.x...). HAVE A NICE DAY!

#3 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 11/9/2004 9:23:19 AM
"If you are like myself, you'll probably end up removing Firefox 1.0"

I'm glad that I read many more comments around the internet from users who said they haven't looked back to IE after installing Firefox.

"2a - Firefox ("FF" in Mozilla-Fan Lingo) is okay, but about three-quarters of its "benefits" are total hogwash."

Could you explain what benefits of Firefox are Hogwash?

"all subsequent installs retain the original install's favorites..."

Thats because uninstalling Firefox doesnt get rid of your profile. If you want to start with a fresh profile just delete the old one and restart Firefox. It will automatically start the import function again.

#4 By 13797 (206.194.127.111) at 11/9/2004 12:31:11 PM
nasserd wrote: Most notably, it would require every other website to redesign ITSELF to support Firefox, as opposed to Firefox supporting websites. IE for instance, supports websites.

This is because Firefox (and the rest of the Mozilla codebase) was written to support W3C standards, which do not include many of Microsoft's additions. This puts Firefox ahead in some aspects (better support of CSS2, support for PNG transparency) than Internet Explorer, but makes pages designed for Internet Explorer occasionally incompatible with Firefox, ranging from minor errors in page layout to complete inability to render a given page.

Users of non-IE browsers, though, make up at least 10% of the market (Safari, Konquerer, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera), and they have been able to slowly push a number of sites to move from IE-only to support non-IE browsers. My bank and credit card companies both, early on, supported only IE, but eventually redesigned things such that non-IE browsers worked just fine on them, and now there is no difference in the user experience. There's still a reason to keep IE around -- I still use it for a handful of pages -- but by and large, most sites work just fine with Firefox, and hopefully its expanded use will encourage more site developers to use existing standards, and encourage Microsoft to better support the standards.

#5 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/9/2004 2:33:53 PM
<yawn> nothing to see here. Move along.

#6 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/9/2004 2:45:17 PM
"Just installed it, very nice and it loads ActiveWin much faster than IE 6. "

Not in my experience. IE6 is faster on my end.

#7 By 2960 (156.80.64.137) at 11/9/2004 2:46:11 PM
"2b - I read a recent PCWorld/PCWeek/eWeek/Whatever-the-title-was article that actually highlighted a lot of deficiencies. Most notably, it would require every other website to redesign ITSELF to support Firefox, as opposed to Firefox supporting websites. IE for instance, supports websites. "

Huh? It access web sites fine for me. Including this one.

#8 By 2332 (66.228.91.60) at 11/9/2004 4:48:29 PM
The only websites I've ever been on that Firefox doesn't handle well are sites that use ActiveX controls (rare), and Microsoft sites like GotDotNet.com and various MSDN pages.

#9 By 37 (67.37.29.142) at 11/9/2004 4:52:36 PM
Mr. Dee...I ran previous betas, yes. However, I have installed 1.0 on my newly formatted machines and they never ran the beta.

#10 By 7797 (63.76.44.6) at 11/9/2004 5:04:52 PM
First you say: "<yawn> nothing to see here. Move along."

Then you say: "However, I have installed 1.0 on my newly formatted machines"

LOL yeah nothing to see here at all huh? Only YOU should be informed in the future because you're SPECIAL! We can't think for ourselves or try it out for ourselves. We'll move just along because the almighty AWBrian told us there is nothing to see here.

#11 By 415 (199.8.64.200) at 11/10/2004 2:11:12 PM
Another one of those tired, worn out discussions...

I think this is what Brian had in mind when he made his first comment, so just get off his friggin back, beotchs!

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