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Gartner: Database Market Contracted in 2002, SQL Server Grew | |
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| Time: 11:47 EST/16:47 GMT | News Source: Ent Mag | Posted By: Adrian Latinak | ||
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New research on the database market from Gartner on Wednesday quantifies in yet another area the case for arguing that 2002 was the worst year yet for IT. But the research also supports another trend -- no matter how bad things got, Microsoft kept growing and churning out profits. | ||
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| #1 By 2332 (216.41.45.78) at 5/21/2003 1:13:44 PM |
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SQL Server is one of the most under rated Microsoft products... and that's saying a lot considering how under rating Microsoft is in general.
Somebody should give the SQL Server team a cookie. |
| #2 By 3653 (209.149.57.116) at 5/21/2003 3:03:51 PM |
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This is obviously due to Microsoft's monopoly in Server operating systems. Oh wait, they DONT HAVE A MONOPOLY THERE.
Well, then it must be because MS tried to dump software into the education market, as their big settlement. Oh wait, this has nothing to do with the grade school market. Well, then it must be due to that evil internal MS memo that said "Dont lose to Linux". Oh wait, these were SQL Server market share gains... not OS gains. So, that excuse isn't relevant either. Heck, perhaps IT buyers are just tired of paying so much for Oracle... when SQL Server does the job as well for 95% of the market... and it does the job much cheaper. |
| #3 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 5/21/2003 3:30:55 PM |
| #4 - Yes. Microsoft has a monopoly on OS, and SQL Server is the only database that runs on Windows. |
| #4 By 20 (67.9.179.51) at 5/21/2003 3:47:24 PM |
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This doesn't matter, because as linuxhippie said, Microsoft is on it's way out because Linux has already won.
MySql is obviously superior to both Oracle and MS SQL Server. Referential Integrity is overrated. It can all be achieved through creative SELECT statements. |
| #5 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 5/21/2003 6:07:42 PM |
| A hack on top of a kludge surrounded in an enigma of duct tape. |
| #6 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 5/21/2003 8:58:28 PM |
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Ya... M$ is cheating with $QL $erver. Microsloth gets to use "DoDatabaseStuffFast" API funtions, when everybody else has to use "DoDatabaseStuffCrappy" calls.
Down with M$! |
| #7 By 8273 (4.47.72.198) at 5/21/2003 10:37:45 PM |
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I just can’t figure out why all the OSS DB's are not doing better in the TP/C results. After all, OSS has the advantage in price since it is free (as in beer) and Windows licensing, protecting yourself against audits, DRM, bundling of additional products, etc. will drain your organization's coffers dry. So that should give OSS the price advantage. And any OSS offering is inherently better than closed source since there are millions of eyes looking at the code, making it perform better, so open source should have the performance benefit. Could it be that (as has been suggested here) that MS is using secret hidden APIs? Of course the open source people have access to all the Linux APIs, so they have the ability to use whatever they want to increase performance (and APIs don’t help the price factor). That doesn’t hold either since there are DBes from other vendors running on Windows in the top 10 of the TP/C. Could it be Microsoft abusing their monopoly? I am not sure how they could use it to win better scores, but I am positive there is a way.
Or, could it be that the open source community is simply not living up to their promises? Nah, can’t be that. |
| #8 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 5/22/2003 1:43:22 AM |
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#14 - How could you possibly know what calls SQL Server makes? I mean, we can all view what DLLs SQL Server had loaded... and they're all pretty standard libraries.
Aside from that, how exactly are you viewing what calls SQL Server is making? And if you can view the calls, why not use them youself? Or, rather, why doesn't Oracle or MySQL? Nobody has ever provided any evidence that Microsot applications take advantage of hidden APIs that make them run faster than everybody else's stuff. It's an unsubstantiated claim that is assumed to be true because it offers a nice and convienent alternative to Microsoft actually writing the best code. |
| #9 By 2332 (65.221.182.2) at 5/22/2003 9:28:08 AM |
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#16 - What does having a monopoly have to do with the quality of the desktop software you make?
I mean, I can see the plausibility of suggesting that if you write the OS you have the ability to write the best software to run on that OS because of your in-depth knowledge of the inner workings of the OS, but that has absolutely nothing to do with monopolies. In addition, if writing an OS automatically gave you the ability to write the best applications for that OS, why do most of the applications Apple writes still suck? Apple Works? Quicktime? Come on. |
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