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| Time: 09:43 EST/14:43 GMT | News Source: ZDNet | Posted By: Byron Hinson | ||
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There are three topics you just can't bring up in polite company without spoiling for a fight: politics, religion, and Microsoft. All three involve power, influence, wealth, and potential suffering. And all three can leave rationality and fairness in the dust. So it was a major break for Microsoft when the U.S. Court of Appeals recently let the company off the hook a bit and blasted Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's breakup plan and his character. Recently, in a 7-0 vote, the Appeals Court excoriated Jackson for "deliberate, repeated, egregious, and flagrant" comments to reporters during the trial that compared Microsoft to drug gangs, and Bill Gates to an arrogant Napoleon and a mule who needed to be "whopped . . . upside the head." (It probably didn't help that Jackson earlier branded U.S. Court of Appeals judges as supercilious, inexperienced, and superficial.) | ||
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| #1 By 1295 (216.84.210.100) at 9/14/2001 10:15:26 AM |
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This is the best damn article i have read about this whole circus act!!!
this guys hit it right on the head. God Bless America!! |
| #2 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/14/2001 1:06:49 PM |
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My God! I don't think I've ever seen an article like this discussing Microsoft.
It's about time! |
| #3 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/14/2001 3:35:21 PM |
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#6... Why do you feel those positions are contradictory?
Paul Somerson's point was obviously that Microsoft's success has been created because they listen to the customer. They ask the customer "What do you want?" and then deliver. The DOJ lawsuit is primarily motivated by the "Boo hoo, we don't know how to talk to customers. It must be Microsoft's fault we suck!" attitude of many of today's tech companies. How many people do we hear of proclaiming that they run Linux and are completely Microsoft free. Isn't that proof already of Paul's statement? The proof of the other side is that I do not run Linux because I find it abominable from a usablity standpoint. I'm not willing to give up so much to gain so little. |
| #4 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/14/2001 3:40:58 PM |
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BTW, both #6 and #7 take the position that this guy sold out, that it is MS propaganda, that he is a MS shill, that he is incapable of independent thought, etc.
Why exactly do you take this position? |
| #5 By 1295 (216.84.210.229) at 9/14/2001 3:50:16 PM |
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Sounds to me like #6 and #7 are LinuxBots.
Talk about running with the crowd... the ol' M$ attitude... Keep your shallow minded piper following comments on ZDNet where they belong :) |
| #6 By 1124 (165.170.128.65) at 9/14/2001 5:05:27 PM |
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#11
You and your kind are the only ones who think bundling is "limiting consumer choice". The Internet Explorer thing was overturned by the COURTS and the DOJ said they will not persue it. (I figure you would understand this since you were screaming about how the courts Declared MS a monopoly) All real consumer operating systems have useful programs bundled. Look at Apples latest. |
| #7 By 61 (24.26.83.117) at 9/14/2001 5:51:25 PM |
| 206.216.36.162: I suggest that you cool it. Your attitude is horrendous, and should not be tollerated, I'm just waiting for AW to remove your posts. |
| #8 By 135 (209.180.28.6) at 9/14/2001 6:32:47 PM |
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#6, #11, whatever your name is...
Again, I do not see a discrepancy between Somerson's earlier positions and this new one. You ask us to believe that "You can be pro-MS and still find points to criticize. ", yet you refuse to accept the same behavior in others. You are a hypocrite, plain and simple. |
| #9 By 135 (64.214.61.241) at 9/14/2001 9:54:23 PM |
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Remedy 2 that is suggested by #41 does nothing other than to increase the cost to the consumer.
We've gone over this before, for instance in WinXP if you were to purchase some of the same functionality of remote control, CD burning, etc. with Win2k you would need to spend something close to $370 on top of the price of the OS. That more than triples the cost of the OS for most consumers, and in many cases while the consumer could benefit from the limited functionality available in XP they have no need for the full functionality of the individual packages. So really you are not promoting choice, but instead limiting it. Cripling the ability of people to use their computers in new and creative ways. I find these arguments to be truly sickening as a consumer. |
| #10 By 135 (64.214.61.241) at 9/14/2001 9:58:20 PM |
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Oh and #46, you should be more discriminatory of who you listen to. The real experts agree the tying issue was a lost cause and had deep questions within it. That's why it was thrown back to the lower court to readdress.
It still baffles me why you want to cripple companies that produce quality software in order to prop up companies who create crap. |
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