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| #1 By 77778 (129.11.139.109) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 06:35:21 AM |
| I'm a newer to the forum. recently, I met problems with my home network. I got a PC with XP, and a laptop with vista. I built a network by router which PC is wired and laptop wireless. they shared internet very well. However, I could not find each other in my network. Even I could not ping each other after I remove firewall. By the way, I didnot do any special step, just install router. |
| #2 By 655 (165.125.144.17) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 07:27:38 AM |
| This is what's known as a peer to peer network. First question - which versions of XP and Vista are you using? The next step is to make sure that the workgroup name for both is the same. Make sure this is so. On Vista, Network Discovery is turned off by default. Enable this and you should be able to see any other computers. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 1800 - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, nVidia 5200; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS2, Nikon D200 and D100 |
| #3 By 77778 (129.11.139.109) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 07:47:03 AM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: This is what's known as a peer to peer network. First question - which versions of XP and Vista are you using? The next step is to make sure that the workgroup name for both is the same. Make sure this is so. On Vista, Network Discovery is turned off by default. Enable this and you should be able to see any other computers. [/QUOTE] PC with XP Home(SP2) laptop with Vista Home premium have identical workgroup name, even they are different, I suppose that I could see two groups. on vista, network discovery is turned on already. but..... |
| #4 By 655 (165.125.144.17) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 08:06:34 AM |
| hmmm....weird. Which router are you using? ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 1800 - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, nVidia 5200; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS2, Nikon D200 and D100 |
| #5 By 77778 (129.11.139.109) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 08:16:54 AM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: hmmm....weird. Which router are you using? [/QUOTE] BELKIN F5D7230UK4 wireless G router (4 wire ports). PC wired, laptop wireless |
| #6 By 655 (165.125.144.17) at Wednesday, April 25, 2007 09:38:26 AM |
| If both can access the internet, that's good. I'd suggest running the network setup wizard on each, and choose a common workgroup name like...workgroup (I know...not to creative). On the router, make sure you're using WAP2 for encryption/security. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, nVidia 5200; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS2, Nikon D200 and D100 |
| #7 By 78207 (82.17.131.135) at Wednesday, May 02, 2007 09:34:43 AM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: If both can access the internet, that's good. I'd suggest running the network setup wizard on each, and choose a common workgroup name like...workgroup (I know...not to creative). On the router, make sure you're using WAP2 for encryption/security. [/QUOTE] Did you ever solve this problem? I have exactly the same problem. Same hardware setup, same operating systems and same router. I had to download a 'link-layer topology discovery responder' patch from the microsoft site for the XP computer. After that the Vista laptop could see the XP on the network map. Windows media player automatically detected the connection and I can now share music/video files but I am unable to share any other documents. I have enabled file sharing but nothing shows up. Any advice you can give would be very welcome! DJ |
| #8 By 655 (165.125.144.17) at Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:10:38 AM |
| Per my recommendation, run the Network Setup wizard on both machines and choose a common workgroup name. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, nVidia 5200; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS2, Nikon D200 and D100 |
| #9 By 78207 (82.17.131.135) at Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:12:54 AM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by donjuan1500: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: If both can access the internet, that's good. I'd suggest running the network setup wizard on each, and choose a common workgroup name like...workgroup (I know...not to creative). On the router, make sure you're using WAP2 for encryption/security. [/QUOTE] Did you ever solve this problem? I have exactly the same problem. Same hardware setup, same operating systems and same router. I had to download a 'link-layer topology discovery responder' patch from the microsoft site for the XP computer. After that the Vista laptop could see the XP on the network map. Windows media player automatically detected the connection and I can now share music/video files but I am unable to share any other documents. I have enabled file sharing but nothing shows up. Any advice you can give would be very welcome! DJ [/QUOTE] NO NEED!!!! I've solved the problem!!! Here's how to do it...... 1) Make sure that the XP machine has a TCP IP version 6 protocol installed (go to properties of your LAN connection) 2) Make sure the TCP IP standard protocol has NETBIOS enabled (click properties, advanced, WIN and then enable) 3) Do a 'custom' windows update and make sure you install the updated peer to peer patch. Restart the XP machine after this. Hopefully it now should work. If it doesn't you need to check your firewall settings on both computers. Go on...tell me I'm a genius!!!! |
| #10 By 78425 (70.179.170.1) at Saturday, May 05, 2007 05:29:10 PM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by donjuan1500: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by donjuan1500: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: If both can access the internet, that's good. I'd suggest running the network setup wizard on each, and choose a common workgroup name like...workgroup (I know...not to creative). On the router, make sure you're using WAP2 for encryption/security. [/QUOTE] Did you ever solve this problem? I have exactly the same problem. Same hardware setup, same operating systems and same router. I had to download a 'link-layer topology discovery responder' patch from the microsoft site for the XP computer. After that the Vista laptop could see the XP on the network map. Windows media player automatically detected the connection and I can now share music/video files but I am unable to share any other documents. I have enabled file sharing but nothing shows up. Any advice you can give would be very welcome! DJ [/QUOTE] NO NEED!!!! I've solved the problem!!! Here's how to do it...... 1) Make sure that the XP machine has a TCP IP version 6 protocol installed (go to properties of your LAN connection) 2) Make sure the TCP IP standard protocol has NETBIOS enabled (click properties, advanced, WIN and then enable) 3) Do a 'custom' windows update and make sure you install the updated peer to peer patch. Restart the XP machine after this. Hopefully it now should work. If it doesn't you need to check your firewall settings on both computers. Go on...tell me I'm a genius!!!! [/QUOTE] I'm having the same problems, but both of my computers are desktops. I tried what you said about TCP/IP v6 and the NETBIOS thing but with no luck. I checked my firewalls and they SHOULD be letting the two computers talk to each other. Has anyone else had the same luck as me or am I just missing something? Thanks. |
| #11 By 78207 (82.17.131.135) at Monday, May 07, 2007 04:06:53 AM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by manne: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by donjuan1500: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by donjuan1500: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: If both can access the internet, that's good. I'd suggest running the network setup wizard on each, and choose a common workgroup name like...workgroup (I know...not to creative). On the router, make sure you're using WAP2 for encryption/security. [/QUOTE] Did you ever solve this problem? I have exactly the same problem. Same hardware setup, same operating systems and same router. I had to download a 'link-layer topology discovery responder' patch from the microsoft site for the XP computer. After that the Vista laptop could see the XP on the network map. Windows media player automatically detected the connection and I can now share music/video files but I am unable to share any other documents. I have enabled file sharing but nothing shows up. Any advice you can give would be very welcome! DJ [/QUOTE] NO NEED!!!! I've solved the problem!!! Here's how to do it...... 1) Make sure that the XP machine has a TCP IP version 6 protocol installed (go to properties of your LAN connection) 2) Make sure the TCP IP standard protocol has NETBIOS enabled (click properties, advanced, WIN and then enable) 3) Do a 'custom' windows update and make sure you install the updated peer to peer patch. Restart the XP machine after this. Hopefully it now should work. If it doesn't you need to check your firewall settings on both computers. Go on...tell me I'm a genius!!!! [/QUOTE] I'm having the same problems, but both of my computers are desktops. I tried what you said about TCP/IP v6 and the NETBIOS thing but with no luck. I checked my firewalls and they SHOULD be letting the two computers talk to each other. Has anyone else had the same luck as me or am I just missing something? Thanks. [/QUOTE] What operating systems are you running? You may need the topology patch that I mentioned in my first post. |
| #12 By 78425 (70.179.170.1) at Tuesday, May 08, 2007 05:18:04 PM |
| What operating systems are you running? You may need the topology patch that I mentioned in my first post. [/QUOTE] I'm using XP Home on one and Vista HP on the other. I've downloaded the patch and installed it already too. |
| #13 By 79106 (81.152.1.253) at Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:31:04 PM |
| Sorry to kill everyone's ideas but all of the solutions are not going to work. It's simple. Vista has a function where you set the location of the network, e.g. Public or Private. Obviously you've got Public set up. This disables File Sharing, and all other handy stuff. Go to Network and Sharing Center. (If you can't find this, right-click on the connection next to the clock on the taskbar and click it) Notice some things aren't displaying that green light and say they're off? Click customize at the top under the internet globe thingy and change the location to private. If the Sharing and Discovery features still say off click on them and click something like Turn on or activate you get it. Good luck, sorry if this doesn't solve it :P |
| #14 By 86037 (74.112.74.77) at Monday, September 17, 2007 04:28:33 PM |
| I'm also having this problem, have one pc with xp home and another with Vista, have a router (Linksys) in between. Trying to get both pc to talk to each other. On the Vista, it see's the other pc but get access it. I made the C drive as a shared and also on the Vista one too. The workgroups are the same. I named them workgroup. Why does Vista see it but not the xp home? I made sure that the user has the same as admin settings. This is on both. I've followed your instruction and made sure that all green light are on. The file sharring is on. Error receiveing. 0x80070035 network path was not found. Would it be better by going with ip? I do beleive it's with XP that I'm having the problem. Any idea? |
| #15 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 04:47:34 AM |
| If you can share Internet, will u pls help me. I have one desktop with XP proffesional and Hp Laptop with Vista. I have 2 lan card on Desktop, one is having direct internet and the other lan card is used to interface XP and VISTA. I can see both the PC on each end., only i cannot share the internet from my destop to laptop. PLS HELP ME WITH DETAIL CONFIGURATION THAT I HAVE TO DO TO GET INTERNET IN LAPTOP. PLS IT IS A REQUEST TO U ALL. [QUOTE]Originally Posted by bird: I'm a newer to the forum. recently, I met problems with my home network. I got a PC with XP, and a laptop with vista. I built a network by router which PC is wired and laptop wireless. they shared internet very well. However, I could not find each other in my network. Even I could not ping each other after I remove firewall. By the way, I didnot do any special step, just install router. [/QUOTE] |
| #16 By 655 (70.231.47.225) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 04:50:37 AM |
| You have to run Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on the desktop to share the connection with the laptop. FWIW, a router is a much better choice as ICS requires your desktop to be on in order for the laptop to share the connection. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #17 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 05:12:30 AM |
| I have already shared the Internet Lan card and it shows share. To be more clear on wat i did.... I made Home network, in that i asked me is this PC directly connected to internet, i selected YES and then seleted that lan card in which it is directly connected to internet and then it asked me how i want to share the internet, i seleted the second lan card. I also made Home network in LAPTOP also. I can share files, just the INTERNET. PLS HELP [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: You have to run Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on the desktop to share the connection with the laptop. FWIW, a router is a much better choice as ICS requires your desktop to be on in order for the laptop to share the connection. [/QUOTE] |
| #18 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 05:21:02 AM |
| In XP desktop i configured IP as 192.168.0.1 and vista laptop ip as 192.168.0.2 and i can ping both of them. ONLY THE INTERNET is the problem, i cant get the internet. FIREWALLS are closed on both ends... Help me to share my broadband internet, pls [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: You have to run Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on the desktop to share the connection with the laptop. FWIW, a router is a much better choice as ICS requires your desktop to be on in order for the laptop to share the connection. [/QUOTE] |
| #19 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 07:30:25 AM |
| Did you run the ICS wizard as I suggested? ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #20 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 08:38:24 AM |
| yes i had, that is what i replied u in last 2 messages, i had run that, network connection right. i also shared the connecton. Help me [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: Did you run the ICS wizard as I suggested? [/QUOTE] |
| #21 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 09:06:17 AM |
| Please see these instructions from Microsoft's support site. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126 FWIW, ICS is a pain in the lower posterior. I'd strongly recommend using a router over ICS any day. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #22 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 09:44:55 AM |
| I did as per all they gave, now the one statement that they give is 192.168.0.1, i cannot configure as i am getting error as already this IP is used by some one in the network. Now what should i doo?????????????? [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: Please see these instructions from Microsoft's support site. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126 FWIW, ICS is a pain in the lower posterior. I'd strongly recommend using a router over ICS any day. [/QUOTE] |
| #23 By 91362 (221.128.137.15) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:31:35 AM |
| Dear friend, As you said i tried my best and configured and shared my ISP connection and all the steps given by the Windows from you r link. same in master and client PC. i did all. still i am getting cannot find page in the client PC. I followed all the 3 steps and they are confidently correct. Please help. [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: Please see these instructions from Microsoft's support site. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126 FWIW, ICS is a pain in the lower posterior. I'd strongly recommend using a router over ICS any day. [/QUOTE] |
| #24 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:39:31 AM |
| I'd suggest changing the TCP/IP settings to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and start over. First, make sure that your host machine can connect to the internet. If it can, then run ICS Wizard. As I said, ICS is a pain in the butt, and difficult to get it to work right. Use a router - you'll get a built-in hardware firewall and a lot less grief. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #25 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:40:48 AM |
| In vita, abt the 3 step for client PC, in the help it is given that in LCIENT VISTA PC we have to go in Internet option--- connections--- setup--- then next next.... but it is not same with VISTA, it dont have same setup as 98 and XP..... does it matters. and to let you know i tried with private and public both in vista but same . HELP PLS [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: Please see these instructions from Microsoft's support site. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126 FWIW, ICS is a pain in the lower posterior. I'd strongly recommend using a router over ICS any day. [/QUOTE] |
| #26 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:51:50 AM |
| Yes Jedi, i did ICS setup as u suggested all same, only in Vista step #3 suggeted by windows is not possible,will u pls go through that link for client setup. it is not possible with VISTA. and ICs is done, and now i can get shared conneted of my Broadband...... [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: I'd suggest changing the TCP/IP settings to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and start over. First, make sure that your host machine can connect to the internet. If it can, then run ICS Wizard. As I said, ICS is a pain in the butt, and difficult to get it to work right. Use a router - you'll get a built-in hardware firewall and a lot less grief. [/QUOTE] |
| #27 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:18:12 PM |
| [QUOTE]Originally Posted by navo: Yes Jedi, i did ICS setup as u suggested all same, only in Vista step #3 suggeted by windows is not possible,[b][i]will u pls go through that link for client setup[/i][/b]. it is not possible with VISTA. [b][i]and ICs is done, and now i can get shared conneted of my Broadband[/i][/b]......[/QUOTE] urm...I have no idea of what you're trying to say here (i.e. what I've highlighted). You may want to post your question on one of the Microsoft Discussion Boards for Vista. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #28 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 01:41:52 PM |
| The link for microsoft that you had send me in some previous replies contains some information about stting up of internet connection in client PC (my laptop). As i have vista in my laptop i cannot do the setup of that internet connection as they have discribed. So i requested you to please go through the microsoft link. Had any one succeded in sharing internet connection between XP and Vista? If so then how they did? Can u send me details at navoghosh@yahoo.com I have broadband connection in my Desktop (XP) with 2 lan cards, one lan card is used for bradband internet connection and the other lan card is used to network between my Desktop (XP) with Laptop (vista). I can share the files from both machines. I want to share the bradband connection of my desktop to use in laptop. I have done setup of ICS in desktop and it shows me sharing icon on my internet connection. i also configured the laptop as what is from help from microsoft link that you gave me. Still i cannot use any internet in my laptop. This is the problem................. [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: [QUOTE]Originally Posted by navo: Yes Jedi, i did ICS setup as u suggested all same, only in Vista step #3 suggeted by windows is not possible,[b][i]will u pls go through that link for client setup[/i][/b]. it is not possible with VISTA. [b][i]and ICs is done, and now i can get shared conneted of my Broadband[/i][/b]......[/QUOTE] urm...I have no idea of what you're trying to say here (i.e. what I've highlighted). You may want to post your question on one of the Microsoft Discussion Boards for Vista. [/QUOTE] |
| #29 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 02:08:06 PM |
| First, I'd strongly recommend going to one of the Vista discussion groups on Microsoft's site. That's probably the best place to get help on this specific issue. Also, there's no need to quote what I posted as it's redundant. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
| #30 By 91362 (202.63.173.53) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 02:18:25 PM |
| Thanks for u r reply and all help u provided, if lastly if u can give any link of microsoft for live discussion as u did with me, plsssssssss [QUOTE]Originally Posted by Jedi Master: First, I'd strongly recommend going to one of the Vista discussion groups on Microsoft's site. That's probably the best place to get help on this specific issue. Also, there's no need to quote what I posted as it's redundant. [/QUOTE] |
| #31 By 655 (128.249.200.4) at Tuesday, November 20, 2007 02:46:59 PM |
| Here's a link to their discussion groups. http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/community/default.mspx FYI, I'm closing/locking this thread. ---------------------------------------------- Work is for people who don't know how to surf Gateway Performance 700C - P4 1.8gz, 1gig RAM, ATi Radeon 9550; SB Audigy SE; Windows Vista Business, Photoshop CS3, Nikon D200 |
